UFOs, Jeff’s Secret Double Life, and What the Hell is Wrong with Neil deGrasse Tyson?

Episode 81: The Truth Is Out There… and Jeff Apparently Already Knew About It

After a brief hiatus caused by life, old-man responsibilities, and Chris losing a fight with some loose gravel, NICE PULL! returns with an episode that goes considerably deeper down the rabbit hole than anyone probably intended.

This week, Chris and Jeff finally tackle UFOs, aliens, flyingsaucers, government secrecy, Area 51, Close Encounters, In Search Of, the Bermuda Triangle, extraterrestrial biological entities, and the increasingly reasonable possibility that the guy working the graveyard shift at AM/PM isn't from around here.

But there's a twist: Jeff isn't just some guy who watched The X-Files and bought a poster.

Back in the 1990s, what started as a trip to a UFO convention looking for stand-up comedy material somehow led Jeff into the early Disclosure Project, where he helped edit hours of videotaped testimony from military and government witnesses claiming firsthand knowledge of UFOs and extraterrestrial technology. In other words, Jeff went looking for 20 minutes of comedy material and accidentally took the red pill.

From there, things get weird.

Really weird.

Jeff tells Chris about alleged secret programs, reverse-engineered spacecraft, aliens working alongside humans, compartmentalized government projects, technology that could completely upend the world's economy—and onegenuinely creepy incident involving Jeff's wife, a security-gate salesman, and a telephone call that somehow ended up connected to a friend working inside a secure government facility. At which point Jeff's wife essentially issued theonly sensible order available: We're done with UFOs. We have kids.

Chris begins the episode as the reasonably skeptical guy asking how anyone could possibly keep a secret this enormous. By the end, he's basically received his freshman orientation packet for Alien University and admits he's now both more interested and slightly more terrified.

And somehow all of this eventually leads to the most important question of the episode:

Why does Jeff have a problem with Neil deGrasse Tyson?